Very grateful to have had the opportunity to travel from Charlotte up to Newton, N.C., for the protest of Providence Baptist Church (Maiden, N.C.) Pastor Charles Worley and to also report from the scene for QNotes…
Over 1,000 gather in Newton to protest anti-gay preacher’s comments
Peaceful protest draws raucous counter protesters
Newton, N.C. — Over 1,000 people gathered in this small town about an hour outside Charlotte on Sunday to protest what they called messages of hate by Maiden, N.C. Pastor Charles Worley, whose comments at Providence Road Baptist Church during a sermon on May 13 made headlines last week.
Worley said he had “figured a way out – a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers.”
“Build a great big, large fence — 50 or a 100 miles long — and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley told his congregants. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals — and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out. Feed ‘em. And you know in a few years, they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.”
Comments from a 1978 sermon by Worley also raised eyebrows. Posted by the church, the old sermon included comments from Worley that “Forty years ago they would’ve hung [homosexuals], bless God, from a white oak tree!”
Organizers had told media they were expecting 2,000-5,000 protesters, which prompted them to move from their original protest location at Worley’s church to the Catawba County Government and Justice Center. Catawba County Sheriff Coy Reid told qnotes that he estimated attendance at anywhere from 1,400-1,600. He said every spot in the government center parking lot had at one time been filled. The lot holds 675 cars, Reid said, noting that many vehicles had come with at least two passengers.
Yet another update on the Maiden, N.C., Providence Road Baptist Church, whose pastor, Charles “Concentration Camp” Worley, has come under scrutiny for his proposal to send LGBT people to Nazi-like concentration camps and his 1978 sermon blessing the hanging of gays.
A mutual friend on Facebook posted a screenshot of a review of the church he found on the church’s overview on Google. The review reads almost too outlandish to believe.
It it legit? Is it a satire? My first impression was the latter, but I’m concerned it could be real for several reasons.
I’ll explain. First, the review (my emphasis added):
TheRodofGod – today – 5 stars
I started attending this church a few months ago and believe me when I say it is absolutely a blessing. It is so nice to be among like minded individuals who praise the time honored traditions of racial and sexual purity. Pastor Worley speaks an abundance of truth and realizes the need for a final solution to our country’s troubled present. He preaches the truth that modern day Zionist media refuses to acknowledge. Providence isn’t some bobble-head ditto chamber either, we all agree that the good days are behind us and only torment await if we continue to travel the road we’re one. I will continue to pray for days when the racially impure do the menial tasks us deserving and god-chosen southerners are breaking our backs at. The dandies should stop choosing sin and the ladies would be much happier if they could just embrace their dependence on the masculine men in society.
Crazy, right? When I first read it, I thought so too. “There’s no way,” I told myself, “that anyone believes this.” And, the username — “TheRodofGod” — just has to be a joke. Plus, the user has only one activity on Google’s network — this one comment — according to the public profile.
Yet, stopping to consider the source, a church whose pastor has preached murder of LGBT people for at least 40 years, and one might be cautious before ignoring these new comments outright.Pastor Charles “Concentration Camp” Worley from GoodAsYou.org’s Jeremy Hooper, who found an old sermon archived at SermonAudio from Worley given on April 30, 1978, two years after he started preaching at the church.
Listen to the clip below:
I’m God’s preacher. I just believe the book. We’re living in a day when, you know what, it saddens my heart to think that homosexuals can go around, bless God, and get the applause of a lot people, lesbians and all the rest of it. Bless God! Forty years ago they would’ve hung [homosexuals], bless God, from a white oak tree! Wouldn’t they?! Amen!
Hooper notes: “The truly remarkable thing? Of all of his old sermons, *this* is one that someone at his church felt worthy of posting to the Internet for posterity’s sake.”
Today’s CBS News report on Maiden, N.C., Pastor Charles Worley, as broadcast at 1 p.m. as broadcast at CBS Radio online and syndicated nationally.
[Update (May 22, 2012, 2:03 p.m.): Hear the CBS News radio report with Matt’s remarks on Pastor Charles Worley’s comments.]
Just two weeks ago, voters in North Carolina approved 61 to 39 percent a discriminatory, anti-LGBT state constitutional amendment banning marriage and civil unions for same-sex couples and threatening domestic partner protections for all couples.
The primary election came on the heels of a months-long campaign — proponents and opponents airing their positions on TV, radio, in newspaper ads, at community events and at doorsteps and on sidewalks across the state. The campaign was a torturous one, with dangerous, anti-LGBT rhetoric swirling around the state and stoking the fires of hate and bigotry.And, though the LGBT community and its allies lost their campaign at the ballot box, the campaigns on Amendment One might very well provide some bit of silver lining: Now, more than ever, the pure bigotry and hate of those who would seek to discriminate against LGBT people has been exposed.
First, it was Pleasant Garden Baptist Church Pastor Michael “Nuclear Holocaust” Barrett, who claimed in a sermon claimed that legalized marriage for same-sex couples will be like a “nuclear holocaust.”
Then, it was Fayetteville, N.C. Pastor Sean “Crack a Wrist” Harris, who in a sermon encouraged fathers to crack the “limp wrists” of their gay sons and “give ’em a good punch.”
Now, yet another Baptist pastor has been found speaking violence from the pulpit. In Maiden, N.C., Providence Road Baptist Church Pastor Charles Worley said he had “figured a way out – a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers.”
Build a great big, large fence — 50 or a 100 miles long — and put all the lesbians in there. Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals — and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out. Feed ’em. And you know in a few years, they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.
The campaign over Amendment One — in which LGBT people were demonized, scapegoated and, ultimately, ostracized and legally cast aside — has emboldened those who would seek to use the holy name of God to perpetrate violence against us. And, because of those campaigns, such rhetoric is being exposed to the light, and that light will burn it out.
Religiously-motivated violence against LGBT people is nothing new. Desiring for the mass murder of all LGBT people, as shocking as it might sound to many even in our own community, is an old wish — one, as evidenced by Worley, that still exists today. I’ve known such a desire exists for a long time. As a child, my hometown pastor preached violence against LGBT people regularly. “Put all the queers on a ship,” he’d say, “Pluck a hole into the side of it and send it out to sea.” He used similar metaphors as Worley, wishing to pen in all “the queers” in two states until “they die out.” (See: “An awkward ‘homecoming'” and “An awkward ‘homecoming’ – Part Two”)
Dr. Michael Brown, one of Charlotte’s most radical anti-LGBT activists and known associate of those who encourage mass murder, has also similar violent metaphors, using inflammatory rhetoric that suggests a life-or-death struggle and conflict over gay and lesbian issues and people and calling his movement a “battle” and “holy war.” He once told me he abhorred such real violence and “would be the first” to step up to defend me or any person subject to violence. (See full special report, “On the edge: Religious militancy in the Queen City”)
Dr. Brown — and all those others who feign sympathy with LGBT people — here is your chance. Now is your time to stand up, cast aside your bigotry and hate and come to the aid of those people who are clearly under attack.
Charles Worley’s comments are shocking and terrifying. Calling for violence against and mass murder of minorities is inexcusable. My heart aches for any of the LGBT young people in Worley’s congregation forced to listen to this message of hate and violence. Physical, emotional, verbal and spiritual violence against any person has no place in civilized society. History has taught us that there can be a very thin line between religiously-inspired violent rhetoric and real calls to physical violence. This pastor and others propose sending LGBT people to Nazi-like concentration camps and doing real physical violence to us.
Worley owes no less than an immediate and forthright retraction of his comments and an apology to the LGBT community, and he should take steps to meet with LGBT community members to better understand and respect our human dignity.
Those who would continue to demean and threaten LGBT people should take a long, hard look at what they really believe, cast aside their hate and stand with LGBT people in our fight for the right to simply be, to be safe from harm and fear, to be recognized as full and equal members of society and law.
As for us LGBT folks, now is our time to stand up for ourselves. We’ve done it for months on end. Many of us have done it for our whole lives. But we cannot give up now. Now, more than ever, we must not let our momentum for change fade away. In nonviolence of thought, word and deed, we must stand up. We must seek equality. We must seek understanding, respect and reconciliation. We must work toward a greater world where all people — LGBT people and, yes, even folks like anti-gay pastors — are treated with equality and dignity, a world where no person is threatened with violence or death. A world where all God’s children can live in healthy, loving homes, families, churches, schools and communities.
This is our calling. This is our moment in time. This is our moral obligation. Will you stand up?
Protest: Providence Road Baptist Church – RSVP on Facebook
Sunday, May 27 at 10:00am at 3283 Providence Mill Rd, Maiden, NC 28650
The following was prompted, in part, by Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James’ Sunday tweet in which he shared a recent message from the pastor of Charlotte’s Calvary Church. In it, the pastor said, “God’s Plan is to Vote Yes [on Amendment One].” James’ tweet and the pastor’s message was the final impetus that led to this message – this public “talking to myself” – that follows below, as these thoughts have been swirling in my mind for months.
As a person who grew up in the fundamentalist and evangelical Baptist faith, I’ve always felt a connection with those with whom I disagree on many matters of theology and doctrine, especially as it relates to sexuality. While my own faith has grown in different ways, I still identify as a Baptist and, in many ways, still proclaim that old evangelical faith of my childhood and of my ancestors. Even in the face my personal growth in faith, however, I’ve always been able to maintain some semblance of respect – some feeling of Christian brother- and sisterhood – with those who find themselves on the other side of the divide in our Christian family on homosexuality and matters of civic, social and religious equality for LGBT people.
Jeremy Hooper of GoodAsYou.org, among others, has been doing amazing work documenting the vitriol from religious right leaders in North Carolina during the debate over our proposed anti-LGBT constitutional amendment. I’ve been surfing over to his blog many times to see his latest updates. It’s important work, and the words and statements Hooper documents need to be preserved for posterity, thereby enabling future generations to learn from the painful mistakes of their elders today. But, while reading the comments and statements Hooper shares, it has become increasingly more difficult for me to reconcile – to continue living in some spirit of Christian fellowship – with people who would see me and my life ostracized, marginalized and criminalized – some, even, to the point of physical abuse and, dare they say it, death.
I once firmly believed, despite the theological and doctrinal gap between us, that some sort of reconciliation and mutual respect was possible – that even among intense debate over the meaning of Scripture and the nature of the divine, those more fundamentalist or evangelical Christians and I could still manage to live, work, speak, love and act with true Christian grace and humility.
After months of incredibly incendiary and hateful debate, I fear such a notion was mere naïveté. The hate-filled words and actions of those I consider my brothers and sisters are pushing me away from – not drawing me closer toward – our God and our spiritual family. Whatever became of, “By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another” (John 13:35)?
How can I respect and love – much less expect it returned from – a person who believes it’s okay to punch a young gay boy or “crack” his “limp” wrist, as a Fayetteville, N.C., pastor told his congregation? How can I respect and love – much less expect it returned from – a person who believes that by me living life openly and honestly and expecting dignity and equality in return that I somehow have “signed America’s death warrant” and opened the doors to legalized pedophilia and bestiality? How can I respect and love – much less expect it returned from – a person who believes the government should jail or fine me for expressing my love toward another person? How can I respect and love – much less expect it returned from – a person who believes I and any future lifelong partner of mine and our family aren’t deserving of the same medical and legal benefits as my straight family members and friends and their families?
Of course, the list goes on and on.
In church yesterday, as our congregation celebrated this fifth Sunday of Easter, my pastor spoke of “doubting Thomas,” and the rightful place doubts and honest questions should have in a healthy, growing faith. It was a message, I think, I was meant to hear, for my doubts and questions have only grown since the beginning of this maddening and sickening debate in North Carolina.
How can so many of God’s children use God’s name in promoting division, prejudice, mean-spiritedness and hatred when the gospel I know speaks only of unity, fellowship, kindness and love? How can I reconcile my contempt for words of malice with Christ’s commandment to love one another as he loved us? How can I continue believing in the oneness of the body of Christ, yet be faced with the very stark reality that so many of my fellow Christians wish me cast out, placed aside and left behind?
My pastor’s message was prompted, of course, by John’s account of Thomas’ doubtful nature. But, it was the accompanying epistle reading, perhaps, that related so plainly to my own questions (emphasis added):
For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you should follow in his steps. “He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.” When he was abused, he did not return abuse; when he suffered, he did not threaten; but he entrusted himself to the one who judges justly. He himself bore our sins in his body on the cross, so that, free from sins, we might live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed. (1 Peter 2:21-24, NRSV)
In thinking through my questions, I was also reminded of those old, familiar words from Ecclesiastes:
For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven. (3:1, NRSV)
As well as (once more, emphasis added):
Moreover I saw under the sun that in the place of justice, wickedness was there, and in the place of righteousness, wickedness was there as well. I said in my heart, God will judge the righteous and the wicked, for he has appointed a time for every matter, and for every work. (3:16-17, NRSV)
I can’t and won’t claim to have the answers I seek, but I think I’m heading in the right direction. I’ve always believed that many a well-meaning Christian have simply no real knowledge or awareness of the pain they cause in the lives of LGBT people. I’ve known too many good and kind-hearted people who fit this description – too many, dear friends and family included, who simply heed the misguided teachings and proclamations of their chosen religious leaders. These people would never intentionally hurt anyone and many have simply never had the opportunity to meet or speak with an LGBT person, much less the opportunity to learn how to love and include them unconditionally.
It isn’t my place to judge them. It isn’t my place to lash out with anger. It isn’t my place to threaten retribution. Instead, it is my place, as Christ commanded, to love and to teach, to live in kindness and charity. It’s a hard place to live in – difficult to practice love and fellowship when I know it might very well remain unrequited. Surely, it’s far more difficult than the easier path giving way to anger, frustration and bitterness. But, no one said it would be easy: “If any want to become my followers, let them deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me,” Christ said (Luke 9:23, NRSV).
I am comforted knowing that history, no doubt guided by the hand of divine justice, falls squarely on the side of the oppressed:
The LORD works vindication and justice for all who are oppressed (Psalm 103:6, NRSV).
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor” (Luke 4:18-19, NRSV).
In time, just as many did following the abominable era of slavery, the shameful mistreatment of women and the tumultuous days of Jim Crow and segregation, my fellow Christians who would seek to strip away my rights, my dignity and my humanity, will come to understand the errors of their ways. They will look back in shock; they will wonder why they said what they said, why they promoted division and hatred, why they voted to harm others. They will tell their children and grandchildren of the time when the world was a more hostile, less welcoming place. They will impart wisdom, borne from a personal experience wherein they themselves inflicted pain on others and learned lessons only that may teach. And, humanity will be better and stronger for it.
At least, that’s what I hope – even if doubt beckons me in the opposition direction.
No matter the outcome of North Carolina’s vote on Tuesday, I trust that our current struggle will not be in vain. I trust that some greater meaning and purpose is handed down in a lesson from which we can all learn better how to love one another and live in true Christian fellowship that celebrates, rather than takes insidious advantage of, our disagreements and differences.
The photograph used in this commentary is entitled “The Crucifixion of Christ,” a painting by artist Becki Jayne Harrelson, copyright © 1993. I encourage you to visit her website, peruse her other works and support her own, unique ministry.
There was a great article in the UNC-Chapel Hill Daily Tar Heel yesterday, covering the organizing efforts of LGBT students on the campuses of North Carolina’s historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs). Winston-Salem State University, Fayetteville State University, North Carolina Central University and North Carolina Agricultural & Technical State University are among many of North Carolina’s HBCUs.
At NC A&T, LGBT students attempted organizing an LGBT student organization in recent years, but much of the organizing has died down due to the campus climate. It is good to see that many students in other areas are starting to organize:
Gay students want help at historically black schools
Groups fighting culture, religious ties
By: Liz Gilliam, Staff Writer
Issue date: 4/10/07 Section: State & National
Anti-gay sentiments and homophobia long have plagued the gay and lesbian community, but students and activists say that it’s a different ball game among historically black colleges and universities.
Cultural traditions, religious ties and previous racial oppression are among numerous factors cited for a large discrepancy between treatment of homosexuals at HBCUs and predominately white institutions.
N.C. Central University has an active lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender organization on campus that has been gaining steam for the last three years.
“When I got to Central my freshman year of ’04, students were a little bit more non-responsive to anything dealing with LGBT students,” said Brandon Sims, president of N.C. Central’s Colors of NCCU. “It was one of those things where the staff and faculty were sweeping it under the rug until I became president in ’05 and I said, ‘No. NCCU needs an open and active organization.'”
Sims said that the organization includes 46 students of the school’s approximate 8,000.
He said that N.C. Central is one of the most accepting schools in the HBCU community but that the group had to turn to the Human Rights Coalition of North Carolina for funding. The school was willing to charter the group but not willing to fund it, Sims said.
Roger Hayes, a pastor at the Church of the Holy Spirit Fellowship in Winston-Salem, said a number of gay students from area HBCUs have come to his church because it’s accepting.
Hayes said that from his experience, few gay students at Winston-Salem State University are open about their sexuality.
A few days ago I posted about a former Air Force Reserve officer who was dismissed after her sexual orientation was anonymously outed.
In the post I talked about how the unit cohesion argument set forth to uphold the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy by the United States Military definitely didn’t hold up in her case because many of her colleagues are supporting her and eagerly want her to return to serving her country.
The Military often says that the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy is needed in order to preserve unity and cohesion between servicemembers in military units. If this argument were true, the Air Force Reserve officer’s colleagues wouldn’t have wanted her back at her job.
Now… I’ve caught wind of some more damage to the Military’s unit cohesion argument, via Pam’s House Blend.
According to an article by The Fayetteville Observer (North Carolina), soldiers at Fort Bragg say that a fellow servicemember’s private life and sexual orientation have absolutely nothing to do with whether that person can perform their duty to their unit, their military and their country.
One servicemember, a drill sergeant, said “If you are doing your job, you fall into the same category as everyone else.”
As more of these types of statements and positions are made and taken by United States Military personnel, I think it is becoming more clear that the unit cohesion argument in support of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy is just not true.
Soldiers do not care about who you are sleeping with or attracted to. If I were a soldier I wouldn’t care either. I’d be more worried about doing my job and, if in the battlefield, staying alive. If a soldier’s mind is on sex, instead of on his or her job and staying alive, then that soldier definitely fell asleep during training and needs to go back.
The Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy is ridiculous. It is costly, inefficient, irresponsible and an act of government sanctioned and endorsed discrimination. The arguments supporting the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy don’t hold up when you talk to servicemembers and the servicemembers themselves admit they don’t care about the sexual orientations of their colleagues.
So, who wants to join me in song? Here goes…
“Justice fit’ the battle of bigotry, bigotry, bigotry…
Justice fit’ the battle of bigotry…
And the walls came a’ tumblin’ down…”
PS – If you live in Greensboro or anywhere in North Carolina and you are interested in finding out how you can get involved in an effort to bring focus to the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy this fall, check out the Right to Serve Campaign at MattHillNC.com’s Soulforce Youth page as well as the official website, www.righttoserve.org (you can also make a donation to the Greensboro Campaign event via the Right to Serve Greensboro site)
I’ve done a few posts on Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell (DADT) the last two days, including a story that turned out to be false and factually misleading (the Sir Ian McKellen, Georgia National Guard appointment).
This new story, however, isn’t false or factually misleading.
The Army has dismissed a 30 year old, gay, Arab linguist after receiving numerous anonymous emails and completing numerous investigations.
The linguist, Bleu Copas, was assigned to the 82nd Airborne at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Copas never publicly acknowledged his sexual orientation. In other words, Copas was a gay man who followed “Don’t Tell,” living and working in secrecy and hiding.
The other sides of the policy, however, was broken. On numerous occasions, the Untied States Army asked him and other soldiers if they were gay. The other, less known portion of DADT is “Don’t Pursue.” This part of the policy prohibits the military from investigating soldiers’ sexual orientations if the soldiers have not broken the policy themselves. The “Don’t Pursue” portion of the policy was also broken by the United States Army by their numerous investigations.
The worst part about Copas’ situation is that he did what he was supposed to. He followed “Don’t Tell” and even reminded his superiors about “Don’t Ask” when they started asking him about his sexual orientation.
In the end, however, Copas says he took the honorable discharge in order to avoid having to lie about his sexual orientation and receive possible perjury charges.
Perjury charges? For following “Don’t Tell” when the Army breaks “Don’t Ask” and starts asking questions?
This is nothing but a big circle of illegal military actions, lies, prejudice and government-sanctioned discrimination. All of this has been caused by a horribly flawed federal law which keeps, according to the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military (CSSMM), more than 64,000 American servicemembers serving in fear and silence.
The Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy is being followed by a great deal of servicemembers, but that doesn’t help when the Military starts breaking the law and starts doing exactly what it is forbidden to do: Ask about and investigate into the sexual orientations of servicemembers.
The policy is being used as a tool of blackmail and discrimination. The policy is being used to weed out some of the most needed and most important positions in the United States Military.
More than 10,000 lesbian, gay and bisexual servicemembers have been dismissed since 1993. 726 were dismissed last year alone, representing an 11% rise in dismissals from 2004. According to the United States General Accounting Office, 800 of all dismissed LGB soldiers had critical abilities. 300 of those 800 had language skills critical to our current War on Terror and the War in Iraq.
I’ve already said how flawed the policy is based on what I think is government-sanctioned discrimination, but the policy is also flawed because of what it does to the United States’ ability to adequately protect itself and provide for critical services and abilities. It does not make any sense whatsoever to be dismissing people so critical to our success in fighting terrorism or in fighting in the Middle East.
This policy needs to go, go, go. It isn’t helping the United States and it is hurting servicemembers, their partners, their families, their careers and their honorable and distinguished service in protecting you and me and all Americans.
News Source: Washington Post
Bobbie Spainbauer, the student who was kept from her graduation ceremony because she refused to wear a dress, is getting a beating on a message board provided by the Fayetteville Observer.
I first blogged about the gender discrimination against Spainbauer last week after a good friend of mine told me about it.
The ACLU is now involved and, hopefully, these gender-specific dress codes will be out the window.
Check out the message boards at the Fayetteville Observer and, if you can, register and post a comment in support of Bobbie.
Hat Tip: HopeYourself.com